Order Request – Box Dumpers
I don’t usually bother to wind up scammers, and I certainly don’t recommend that you do. But I couldn’t resist this one. I have an online email address that I reserve for scammers – sent in the name of “Annie Cheater” – which you’d think might give the scammers a clue, but apparently doesn’t.
There’s a rant attached to this one, which I’ve added to the end of the post.
It started when I received this email:
Hello Good Day
My Name is David Soon and I will like to know whether you carry *(Box
Dumpers)* in stock for sale. If yes, email me back each size and with the
prices of (1) attached to it so that i will let you know the size and
quantity i will be ordering…. More over I will like to know whether you do
accept credit card as the method of payment….
Hope to read from you again….Stay Blessed.
Kind regards
David Soon
I replied in the name of Sarah that we did (I had to use Google to find out what a box dumper is) and gave him a quote for a 1 ton model and a 2 ton model.
He replied that he wished to place an order:
“Hello Sarah,
Thank you for your respond well am interested in the 1 ton model costing Price: $4226 and i will like to order 2 pieces for this and i want you to email me with the total cost of the 2 pieces excluding freight.Thank you
Best Regards
David Soon”
I gave him the quote and said that freight costs would depend on where he wanted them to be shipped to. He replied that I should contact his (fictitious) shipping company:
Hello Sarah,
I will like to order the Units (2 Units 1 ton model costing $8452) .. And i will recommend a freight company for the pick up of the Units to to my Company in ( Sweden ) . Now i want to you to contact them with the total weight of the Units and find out the freight quote to Sweden for me . The delivery address is below :
ST’ David and Sons Inc
# Ridmansgatan 42
Stockholm, SWEDEN 114 99
Freight company email address : ModexCargoFreight@hotmail.com
And including the pick-up location and they will surely get you a freight quote . As soon as you her from them let me know so that i can proceed with transaction
Best Regards
David Soon(owner)
I contacted the shipping company as requested – and received this reply:
***MODEX CARGO FREIGHT***
Dear Customer
Thank you Once again for Choosing Modex Cargo Freight Company. Well i will need the following information to be able to get you the cost for the shipping of the Units
(1)Pick Up Location :- That is where the Units has to be Pick Up from .
(2)Delivery Location :- That is where the Units has to be Delivered .
(3)Total Weight and the Dimension of the Units that Need to be Pick Up .
And With these Information i will be able to get you the cost for the shipping of your Units from your location to the delivery location . Thank you Once again for Using Modex Cargo Freight for your shipping needs and services, We serve you better to your fullest satisfactory and we are your shipping needs .
Thank You
Cecil Jones
Shipping Department.
I sent the address that “Mr Soon” gave me for delivery and a totally fictitious address for pick up. The shipping company replied:
“
Dear Valid Customer ,
Thank you for your interest in using Modex Cargo Freight for your shipping needs and services, below is the information regarding the shipping quote and payment terms for pick up schedule. We checked on File of picking and shipping of: 1.5metres square. with the Total Weight: 2 tons. From and to the addresses Below
PICKED UP FROM:
Diggers n Dumpers,
Unit 27, Heartlands
Industrial Estate,
Frencham, Cambridgeshire
SHIPPING TO:
ST’ David and Sons Inc
# Ridmansgatan 42
Stockholm, SWEDEN 114 99
The shipping cost is going to $2,850.99 That includes international airway taxes (I.A.T) ,Tariffs and custom’s clearance duties. we will need 100 % down payments,full payments prior to shipping. Product is very secured in our custody and well protected until aim of delivery is excellently completed. It takes approximately 5 business working days for delivery from the day of pick-up because our shipping method is always compared to express shipping. We will also like you to know that for you being the shipper you are the one supposed to make the payment to us. The only method of payment we accept is Wire Transfer to our financial manager in the delivery location. Let us know if you wish to proceed with this shipment so that we can email you back with all the information you require to be able to transfer the funds to us. We look forward to serving you to your fullest satisfa_ction Thank You
Cecil Jones
Shipping Department,
Modex Cargo Freight”
(I was tickled that I was addressed as a “valid” customer!!)
Note that this “shipping company” claim that they only accept payment by Wire Transfer.
I forwarded this quote to Mr Soon, who replied:
“Hello Annie,
Thank you for your respond well i want the quote from Modex which is $2,850.99 and i want you to email me with the grand estimate cost of the units plus the shipping cost together so that we can proceed.I will be waiting back from you Thank you
Best Regards
David Soon”
As you can see – Annie has taken over from Sarah. Annie isn’t so patient – so she told Mr Soon that she was sure he could this shipping fee to the original quote. He realised what he’d done and replied:
“1ton model :$8452
Modex:$2,850.99
Grand Total Cost Will Be :$11302.99
I will Like to know if you are ready for the Payment soo that we can proceed.Looking forward to hear from you has soon as pissble….
The next day I received an email which claimed to come from Mr Soon’s finance department:
“Dear Annie Cheater
My Name is .Gary Huey am sending you this Mail on Behalf of Mr.David Soon He told me he has place an Order from you and he will like me to take care of the payment on his behalf…Below is my credit card information for the processing the payment.
CC NAME: Gary Huey
CC TYPE: Visa Card
CC NUMBER: 4147202079813489
CC DATE: 03 | 14
CVV: 638
BILLING ADDRESS
10515 66th Rd, Apt 5E
Forest Hills | NY | 11375
Note: i want you to run $5,651.00 First after that Put the rest same time and get back to us.
And After processing payment do send me an email with the Approval.also end email confirmation to Mr.David Soon and let him know that the payment has been Approved.Thank you for your Business.
Regards,
Gary Huey”
I have no idea if these credit card details are made up, or stolen, or legitimate. At this point I decided to contact the UK agency “Action Fraud” – you can see their advert on this site, placed there after they contacted me and asked if I would display it. I explained that the scam had got to the stage where I had been given alleged credit card details and asked if they would be interested in continuing with the scammer. It seems to me that when a potential victim wires money to the fake shipping company it must be possible to trace who it is sent to.
You probably won’t be surprised to hear that Action Fraud are not interested in preventing fraud. They are only interested in hearing from you if you have been a victim of fraud – and even then they can’t actually help you – I think they just collect statistics. They told me to contact the Police.
I duly phoned West Mercia Police – who (surprise) told me to contact Action Fraud. When I explained that they weren’t interested in preventing fraud I was told that I could forward the emails and someone would look at them. It seemed to me that they weren’t particularly interested.
I also phoned Visa (noticed the credit card details claim to be Visa) – their reaction was similar to that of the Police. They weren’t particularly interested but agreed I could forward the emails to them.
I know I’ve said it before on this blog, but I’ll say it again. These scams continue unabated because the scammers KNOW that no-one, anywhere is going to stop them. No Police force anywhere seems to have any interest in tracking down the scammers – it involves work, and a bit of persistence and international co-operation. It doesn’t happen.
These scammers will continue to scam as long as we, the general public, continue to fall for them. The scammers know that they will never be pursued, never be prosecuted and never have the stolen money confiscated.
August 9, 2012 @ 2:07 pm
Contact the FBI
September 12, 2011 @ 2:26 pm
I just got a email like this last week. We deal with several out of the country business, so it is not odd to get emails with broken english and odd request. Here is the first email I got:
From: Fred Butler [mailto:fredbutler20@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Crack Melters Inquiry
Hello,
Greetings and my name is Lee Wilson.Am sending you this inquiry to purchase some Crack Melters to my firm,before we can go any further, I first will like to know the types and prices on them so that it will encourage me to know the quantities to purchase from you.
Many thanks and await to hear from you shortly.
with kind regards,
Lee Wilson.
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UCMK145DT – diesel fired, diesel powered $21,900
UCMK245DT – diesel fired, diesel powered $25,500
UCMK400DT – diesel fired, diesel powered $29,500
UCMK65T – gas powered, propane fired $14,900
UCMK145T – gas powered, propane fired $17,500
UCMK245T – gas powered, propane fired $20,900
UCMK400T – gas powered, propane fired $23,700
Any questions let me know.
Thank you,
From: Fred Butler [mailto:fredbutler20@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 12:53 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Melting kettles
I actually went through your website and I was very interested in the model UCMK145DT,get back to me with the price on each so that it will encourage me to know the quantities to purchase from your company.Thanks so much and hope to hear from you.
Fred
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:40 PM,
Fred:
I have attached the different size melting kettles we offer. Which size and type are you looking for? Please let me know so I can get you a good price.
Thank you,
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This was sent to the shipper he recommened!
Cecil:
Per Fred Butler I would like to get a freight rate on a New Marathon UCMK65Y trailer mounted melting kettle. Shipping weight 1950lb (841kg) 116” (294cm) long, 71” (180cm) wide, 60” (152cm) tall.
It would need to be picked up at ???? and delivered to:
Gary Morrison
486 New Cross Road,
London,SE14 6TJ
Any question please let me know, we have all types of loading methods at our location.
Thank you,
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WORLD CLASS SHIPPING
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting World Class Shipping Co. for your shipping needs.We checked on shipping New Marathon UCMK65Y trailer with dimension : 116” (294cm) long, 71” (180cm) wide, 60” (152cm) tall. and 1950lb (841kg) Weight …..Picking it up at your location to London, And its going to cost $3,850.00.That includes International Airway Taxes (I.A.T), Tarrifs and custom’s clearance duties. It takes approximately 5 to 7 days for delivery from the day of pick-up.
Pick up From:
C
To:
Gary Morrison
486 New Cross Road
London, SE14 6T
Company Policy : We only accept our payment from the pick-up location.
All fund must be paid Via Wire Transfer.
Thank you for choosing World Class Shipping for your shipping needs.
Thanks in Advance
Cecil Jones –
Int. Shipping Depart
World Class Shipping
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Fred:
Here is the cost of the shipping for item you are interested in from the shipper you suggested. If you want to use them you will be responsible for setting up and paying for freight. I can get a price from our regular company we use at the first of the week and we can work up a deal.
Thank you,
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Hi Eric,
It my pleasure to read from you.Eventually I will love to contact the freight company and handle the transaction myself but am right now heading towards on a business submit and I won’t be able to contact the freight and handle the order at this time.Thats why I need your help so that you can do that on my behalf,I want make payment with my credit cards .
But before we can go any further,I first will like you to send the invoice together with the total cost on the trailer and the shipping so that I will provide you my credit cards information for you to run for both charges and get the freight company settled on my behalf.
Many thanks and nice doing business with you.
with kind regards,Fred/
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This is the final email I sent him. I have not heard back yet!
I do not know which of these books you read or follow, but I think you should read them closer and see what is right or wrong. What you do to people is not very kind. I hope it is worth it to you and your soul. I will keep you in my prayers.
Koran (Arabic, al-Qur’an) The primary holy book of Islam. It is made up of 114 suras, or chapters, which contain impassioned appeals for belief in God, encouragement to lead a moral life, portrayals of damnation and beatitude, stories of Islamic prophets, and rules governing the social and religious life of Muslims. Believers maintain that the Koran contains the verbatim word of God, revealed to the prophet Muhammad through the Angel Gabriel. Some of the suras were written during Muhammad’s lifetime, but an authoritative text was not produced until c. A.D. 650.
New Testament The second portion of the Christian Bible, which contains 27 books that form the basis of Christian belief. These books include the sayings of Jesus, the story of his life and work, the death and resurrection of Jesus now celebrated as Easter, the teachings and writings of the apostles, and instruction for converting nonbelievers and for performing baptisms, blessings, and other rituals. The New Testament is believed to have been written c. A.D. 100, some 70 to 90 years after the death of Jesus.
Old Testament The Christian name for the Hebrew Bible. It is the sacred scripture of Judaism and the first portion of the Christian Bible. According to Jewish teachings, it is made up of three parts: the Law (also known as the Torah or Pentateuch), comprising the first five books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy), which describes the origins of the world, the covenant between the Lord and Israel, the exodus and entry into the promised land, and the various rules governing social and religious behavior; the Prophets , including the former prophets (Joshua, Judges, Samuel 1-2, Kings 1-2) and the latter prophets (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the 12 minor prophets), which describes the history of the Israelites, the stories of heroes, kings, judges, and wars, and the choosing of David as leader of the Israelites; and the Writings (including Psalms, Job, Song of Solomon, and Ruth, among others), which describes the reactions of the people to the laws and covenants, as well as prayers and praises of the covenant. Some books of the Old Testament regarded as sacred by the Jews are not accepted as such by Christians; among Christians there are differences between Roman Catholics and Protestants about the inclusion of some books, the order of the books, and the original sources used in translating them. Scholars generally agree that the Old Testament was compiled from c. 1000 B.C. to c. 100 B.C.
Talmud A compilation of Jewish oral law and rabbinical teachings that is separate from the scriptures of the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament. It is made up of two parts: the Mishna , which is the oral law itself, and the Gemara , a commentary on the Mishna . The Talmud contains both a legal section (the Halakah ) and a portion devoted to legends and stories (the Aggada ). The authoritative Babylonian Talmud was compiled in the sixth century.
Upanishads The basis of Hindu religion and philosophy that form the final portion of the Veda . The 112 Upanishads describe the relationship of the Brahman , or universal soul, to the atman , or individual soul; they also provide information about Vedic sacrifice and yoga. The original texts of the Upanishads come from various sources and were written beginning c. 900 B.C.
Veda The sacred scripture of Hinduism. Four Vedas make up the Samhita , a collection of prayers and hymns that are considered to be revelations of eternal truth written by seer-poets inspired by the gods. The Rig-Veda , the Sama-Veda , and the Yajur-Veda are books of hymns; the Atharva-Veda compiles magic spells. These writings maintain that the Brahman , or Absolute Self, underlies all reality and can be known by invoking gods through the use of hymns or mantes. The Vedic texts were compiled between c. 1000 B.C. and c. 500 B.C., making them the oldest known group of religious writings.
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Why do people not try to harder to stop these kinds of email!?!